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« on: July 28, 2010, 05:51:24 PM »

Ok, I've been wanting a new mp3 player for a while now. I liked my creative one a lot, but am not familiar with any of the higher capacity ones. I've got about 30 gigs of music, but honestly, I don't listen to it all. Im probably looking for something around 20 gigs. Any suggestions?


Also, my TV just died today. I've been wanting to upgrade for a while, and I'm completely out of the tech market. I don't want anything expensive, because i know you can drop hundreds on a TV. Its not a necessity at the moment, but I'm thinking about it.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 06:38:09 PM »

I've been happy with my Zunes.  My 120gb never really leaves my car, and I use my 8gb when I go to the gym.  I don't think they make 20-30gb mp3 players much anymore, unless you find a really high capacity flash memory player.  Last I looked the biggest was 16gb for flash memory, and the smallest HDD was 120gb. 

Will loves his Toshiba Gigabeat, but I don't think they make them anymore.  Microsoft made the software for those, and the Zune uses and updated version of that.  So a Zune is probably as close as you can get.

The only downside to the Zune is that you have to sync it with the Zune software.  I don't know of many mp3 players anymore that don't require you to have some specific software to put music on it. 

It didn't really give me any hassle when I transferred my music from mp3 player to my freshly formatted PC either.  Which I remember trying to do with my iPod a few years ago, and it was a huge pain in the ass.

The Zune also has built in radio and a few other things like bluetooth.  I don't ever use those, but I guess I'd rather have the options available.


As far as TV's go, I'm not really too much of an expert.  I usually just buy Samsung and I haven't been disappointed yet, but they tend to be on the more expensive side.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 07:03:54 PM »

im way outta the loop on mp3 players. I bought a tv back in november, got a 40" Sony LCD 60 Hz for 600. Price on the 60 Hz has come down with all the 120s and LEDs. I personally dont see much difference in the refresh rate. My grandpa has an LED and the picture is a lil brighter and crisper, but not worth 2-3 times the price. Plasmas have gotten better about reliability and i do really like the colors on a plasma but you gotta have a dark room for em.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2010, 10:08:45 PM »

What Kevin said about the MP3 players.  They don't really make smaller HD ones, there's no point.  It's the same price to get like a 120GB HD MP3 player, and they're just as small or smaller than the old HD ones that had less than half the capacity.

As for the Flash ones, I've seen them up to like 32GB, but they're usually expensive over 8GB or so.  Don't get a flash one unless you want it for portability (jogging, working out, etc.)



For TV's, if you ever plan to play games on it, try to look for one with 8ms or better response time (often times that statistic is hard to find, but it's essential for gaming).  More important is what kind of image post-processing the TV does.  The primary reason that TVs lag is actually because of post-processing, which is something that a lot of people don't know.  Many of the manufacturers apply dumb software image enhancements that take extra processing time and thus cause games to lag.  A lot of the "good" TVs use it, while a lot of the "bad" TVs don't, which is dumb.  This is why my "crappy" Olivia TV is actually fine for gaming, while a lot of "high end" Sonys or Samsungs will lag like ASS.

You can avoid that issue by making sure that your "good" TV with image post processing has a "Game Mode" which turns off the post processing and thus removes the lag.  You will still want to make sure that the TV has no more than a 10ms  response time though (most will, but you should still check).  8ms or less is generally the best, with 5ms or less being perfect.

Also, it's worth noting that the VGA input on any TV never uses post processing-- even if the TV doesn't have a game mode.  So another way around it is to use a VGA adapter for your console, rather than Component.  You can buy them for the Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360 for around $40 online, manufactured by VDIGI.  

Also, remember that when you get a new TV, you will need to upgrade your cables.  It is NOT A VIABLE OPTION to just use the composite cables (yellow, red, white) "until you can afford better cables".  Not only do they look like ASS, but they create even more lag because they have to upscale to the correct resolution.  Do not be fooled and think that the "crappy cables look fine now", they will not look the same on an HD TV.  Composite (yellow, red, white) cables look INFINITELY TERRIBLE when used on an HD TV, despite looking fine on a CRT or "tube" TV.  I could explain that further if you don't already understand why.



More information on the VDIGI here, from a post I made on Smashboards: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=10449009&postcount=5

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As many people already know, the problem is that a lot of TV's use image enhancement on many of their signals; this is what causes the lag to begin with. VGA connections do not have image enhancement and therefore have "zero lag". On VGA, it won't feel *exactly* like a CRT monitor because of how they refresh differently compared to LCDs, but it will not lag.

The reason a VGA connection is better is also explained right on the MLG website, among other places:

If your HDTV doesn't have a Game Mode, the next best bet is the VGA input option. Many HDTVs have a VGA input so as to function easily as computer monitors. Because PCs usually output non-native resolutions, many HDTV manufactures do not apply image enhancement to signals coming in through the VGA input, which can be a boon to gamers.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2010, 10:57:43 PM »

i just do all my gaming, console or otherwise, on my pc monitor. problem solved lol
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 05:43:17 AM »

Another vote for Zune here. Video podcasts and torrented shows make a gym workout fly by and fill that need for video. Movies are fun too.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 01:25:31 PM »

Another nother vote for a zune.

Love mine, and the zune software >>>> itunes.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2010, 07:10:54 PM »

Love mine, and the zune software >>>> itunes.

^^ this ^^
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