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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 06:37:24 PM » |
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Yeah I guess I just don't see the big deal Will. Woohoo! Games in your browser! That's been around since beginning of interwebz. I love me some pac-man. This is just a natural progression of that same idea. 10 years ago we got pac-man in browser. Now we get quake in browser. 10 years from now we get Diablo 3 in browser. Just seems like evolution to me rather than revolution. Did anyone even read the article? I don't understand how this isn't getting accrossed.
Yes. I get it. I'm just not impressed. Yes sir. Go online and get it for free. Sounds like how a lot of people get their games anyway, except this is legal. I just look at it as one small step towards getting rid of piracy. If the game is free to download there is no need for piracy and the creators of the game still make money from the ads. Just hope this carries over to current games that are of a much larger file size. I would not be opposed to in game advertising as long as it isnt out of control. Companies pay big bucks for their cars to be in movies, for their brand of soda or beer to be consumed by the main character, for freaking boxes on a kitchen counter. Why not in games? They reach a huge audience. Hell in GTA IV you have to go get burgers from a made up restaurant for health. Why not McDonalds? I'm sure they'd be willing to pay up.
Gross. Ads in games are a problem...not a good thing. In a free game it is understandable. If GTA4 was FREE ok. But if you would rather be subjected to advertising in your game rather than just paying for it then that is dumb. That is what the goal is. Free or at least cut consumer costs. Would going to McDonalds instead of Burger Shot and getting a Big Mac instead of a Bleeding Burger really matter? NO. While it wont work for all games, it could work for a lot of newer games. A fallen store sign or billboard in CoD, cars, cell phones, food. I'm not talking about Sony ads in WoW. But if it fits the scenery why not? Hell loading screens could just be flat out ads. Sports venues having real ads instead of just EA ads. |
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2009, 07:36:22 PM » |
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Kolby I suppose your point of evolution versus revolution is accurate but it's really just semantics if you ask me.
As for in game ads, I agree 100% with Spidey.
There's nothing wrong with in game ads if they fit the context of the game and don't take away from the gameplay. It works in Quake Live because there is no story mode. It works in GTA4 because it's designed to mimic real life and the ads fit. It doesn't work in games like BF2142 because it takes away from the realism. It just depends on the context.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2009, 09:11:08 AM » |
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wow interesting posts, spidey = win on the adds post,
but wouldnt it be funny to see the 'king' (burger king) sniping people in bf2142? i think itd be hillarious,
we dont need a smashing new delivery system for games willl, we neeed better quality of games, if its good ill buy it, if its ok, ill drop by a lan center that has it and try it out for an hour or so.
im tired of seeing games with amazing potential not make it due to somthing stupid, or games that should never have been made, and you know what im talking about, cookie cutter games with no real plot, mechanics etc.. if those were free, sure a few more people would play them, but theyre still terribad
see what im getting at here?
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2009, 09:23:29 AM » |
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Kolby I suppose your point of evolution versus revolution is accurate but it's really just semantics if you ask me.
I disagree, but still think it's cool you are excited about it. As for ads in gaming, I'd be happy to continue the conversation in a new thread. I am surprised I am the only one who sees this as a real problem... |
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2009, 08:25:56 PM » |
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The only problem I see with ads in the games is that it will drive people to that model and when it fails at generating revenue, advertisement companies will drop it and games that rely on it will fail doubly as hard. Gamers are typically great critical thinkers and I doubt they will nibble so much. The correlation of data from systems that are browser based by well tuned advertisement engines is however a scary concept. Think of everything that is foul and corrupt with facebook * 100.
Oh, and shit games will still get made and invested in. If you think that advertisers will correct the crap, you don't know your advertisement industry very well.
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2009, 09:23:55 PM » |
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i dont really want ads in games.
ads make it so that content has to "fit" into what the agencies want to be associated with. I know they can back out if they dont like the content, but designers will ultimately bend a little to make sure their financial backing stays with them.
plus ads take away from immersion imo. I dont mind paying for a product, and i want it to be all it can be. we all know we but burgers from mcdonalds in real life, but i dont necessarily want my character to live that life , i want a different experience.
ads will never be able to 100% pay for a game, and as long as i am paying equal to or more than 1 cent for my product, i dont want it to be "controlled" by the agencies, or compromised for the sake of cost reduction.
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2009, 08:52:13 PM » |
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Lets face it, all advertisement is going for immersion. What's the difference of a movie star drinking coke or a video character drinking coke in a cut scene? If the game is going to be 100% revenue free then advertisement is going to have to cover the cost of development.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2009, 09:11:24 PM » |
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Lets face it, all advertisement is going for immersion. What's the difference of a movie star drinking coke or a video character drinking coke in a cut scene? If the game is going to be 100% revenue free then advertisement is going to have to cover the cost of development.
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2009, 03:35:16 PM » |
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when a movie character drinks coke or something like that, i immediate notice it, and it makes me think about it, rather than the story or what is going on (at least for a few minutes) the exact OPPOSITE of immersion.
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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2009, 04:54:20 PM » |
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1st off, you're an exception and not the norm.
2ndly immersion of commercials, not as in adding flavour into films.
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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2009, 06:05:55 PM » |
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when a movie character drinks coke or something like that, i immediate notice it, and it makes me think about it, rather than the story or what is going on (at least for a few minutes) the exact OPPOSITE of immersion.
I hope this was sarcasm. 'cause that's really weird. lol |
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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2009, 06:51:14 PM » |
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whenever i noticed "real world" things in movies or tv shows, i recognize them, and it takes me away from it. I dont care about people living in new york city, or specific locations. but if i see someone obviously drinking a can of coke, it just makes me think of how planned it was to put that specific drink in there, and what they are trying to achieve by doing so.
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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2009, 06:56:27 PM » |
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But surely you have to recognize that is a mix of your ADD and your non-conformist mentality, which is obviously not the norm.
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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2009, 07:12:20 PM » |
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But surely you have to recognize that is a mix of your ADD and your non-conformist mentality, which is obviously not the norm.
HA! how insightful. alas, i do not have ADD. |
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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2009, 07:29:45 PM » |
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Normal people drink coke. I don't see how it's weird to see that in a movie.
Now, if Superman is flying through the air, dodging laser beams, thwarting bad guys, and all that, and he stops mid-flight to have a sip of Pepsi-- then, we have a problem.
Normal product usage is perfectly fine and NORMAL. I find myself distracted if something ISN'T a normal brand. Like they go out of their way to make it look like a coke can, but it doesn't say coke, and then I'm like "wtf does that say? it's obviously SUPPOSED to be a coke can..."
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